William Thien

Gun Rights vs. Gun Control

Posted on: March 8, 2014

As a political issue, gun ownership has been a significant point of contention between both major political parties in The United States during campaigns and following any major gun crimes.

Republicans have sought to claim the right to the issue of the right of gun ownership while the Democrats have sought to claim the issue of gun control. In that regard it would appear to an outside observer I’m sure that the Democrats fall flat on their faces when it comes to protecting the right to keep and bear arms in The United states, often hiding behind false statistics or fear mongering in an attempt change the laws governing firearms ownership and usage, clearly for matters of political expediency.

In reality the issue of gun ownership in The United States belongs to no political party and it is in fact a Constitutional Right which even the Supreme Court has found to be legal, time and time again.

Just like abortion, gun rights is often THE single issue that determines who a voter chooses. The problem is, party politics is a “package deal.” If you want the right to own firearms, you have to take all the other issues that the party carries in its political baggage as well. The same goes for abortion and other singular political issues. The two major parties are diametrically opposed on both of those two major issues, Gun Rights and Abortion, and it is so clearly delineated between the two parties that to me it indicates there may be collusion between the two parties with the intent to keep the voters divided and more manageable as a population while maintaining the illusion of choice. How else could things get so mucked up?

Our mass media does us a great disservice by constantly inflaming the issue to improve ratings or to sway voters. We should all be aware of such methods so as to be able to discern the true political issues in the smoke and mirrors of political campaigning and insist that the media (by changing the channel, for instance) and our political leadership keep their hands off of our right to keep and bear arms.

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7 Responses to "Gun Rights vs. Gun Control"

don’t worry; GOP’s will own this issue from here to eternity; it is a huge waste of political capital for dems, or for that matter, any political entity, to try to repeal any form of firearm proliferation.
All that democratic huffing and puffing after Sandy Hook was a huge waste of breath; said so then and i say so now: I predicted that polls would favor taking preventive measures, but would fizzle and more or less reverse their indications at the one-year after-event mark. It did just that.
The literary critic Harold Bloom, as well as major late 20th-century authors such as Cormac McCarthy, have carefully made the case for America being, since its inception, a gun-obsessed people and culture; that will not change and the eventual demise of this country will be related to guns combined with some form of apocalyptic catharsis.
As Bloom sagely noted in “How To Read and Why,” he said, ‘America has been obsessed with guns and god for over 300 years and those twinned obsessions most surely will account for its apocalyptic demise.”

I believe it is a total waste of time to pretend otherwise. There really is no American ethos without obsession with guns and religion, so i can’t really say i wish for something else to be culturally evident.

Very interesting observations on your part. For the sake of gun control, it is more expedient to display the most extreme examples of the use of a firearm. But I don’t think that puts anyone in the bully pulpit anymore. The public is quite aware of the many positive examples of gun usage in self-defense and to deter, and the statistics that correlate with a decrease in crime in areas where concealed carry has been legalized.

I’m not certain American’s are obsessed with guns, but rather maintaining the delicate balance of freedom and their rights. Guns may just happen to be the most expedient way to do that. There are just too many mechanisms working against the general public, altering their perceptions, such as the media and the various political devices.

As for Harold Bloom, someone neglected to mention the Middle East, for example, where their God and guns play a rather more significant role than they do here, wouldn’t you say? At least if you are going to create a gauge to measure “obsessive” behavior, it pays to have something to compare it to.

You forgot to mention some of the other contemporary American “ethos” components such as race, taxes, sex, and sexual orientation.

If there is a robotic liberal response to the entire issue of gun control it is clearly now what you’ve just said, that everything is a waste of time and everyone is obsessed, so why bother?

I’m not even a liberal and I couldn’t agree more. Why bother?

Thank you for your comments. They are well received.

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As for Harold Bloom, someone neglected to mention the Middle East, for example, where their God and guns play a rather more significant role than they do here, wouldn’t you say? At least if you are going to create a gauge to measure “obsessive” behavior, it pays to have something to compare it to.

I think you are confusing gun obsession with religious fanaticism; in the Mideast countries, though i’m not familiar with the civic culture of all of them, i’d confidently venture that guns are much, much, much less widely distributed among the varying class and social ranks; i.e., in America there are many more guns found across social and class ranks; in the mideast, munitions are almost the sole province of designated rebels and jihads, and from there young men with specific religious and political convictions and attendant designations.
Mideasterners do indeed share religious zealotry that stands up with any American fundamentalist —— i doubt anyone won’t grant you that. But that American pioneering ‘manifest-destiny’ aspect that I was referencing in my comment of question is a distinctly American thing and is in no way a currently manifesting tradition in the mideast. We are a much, much more gun-obsessed culture. What you have there is a zealot elite and a passive peasantry, writ large. This of course is a big, big problem —— but simply a quite different one than the one i opined on.

Mr. Thien responds: I’m not confusing anything, my good man. If you recall, you brought up the subject of “Guns and God” with the quote from Bloom. Religious fanaticism, as you are now calling, it IS “God.” It’s just more “fanatical” God. Granted, guns are not as prevalent culturally in much of the world as in The US, but statistically, if you look at all of the conflicts going on around the world, frequently disputes are settled with guns elsewhere whereas here we at least try to other measures first. It’s a matter of perspective, semantics, or usage, perhaps. I would add that your impression of guns not being as prevalent in the rest of the world may be incorrect. Hunting and shooting sports are quite common around the world. I think what you are vaguely referring to is that there are more mass shootings here than elsewhere which you are suggesting is due to our “gun culture.” I disagree, it is more likely that it is due to our culture in general and the media, such as violent television.

edit: “guns and GOD” — not ‘guns and good.’

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I think as long as the two major parties toy with this particular issue of Constitutional Rights, consideration of a third party at the voting booth may be in order.

re. my contention that America has a far-deeper gun infatuation and folklore compared to that within middle-eastern countries, take a look at this photo essay, which i offer to bolster my point:


So what’s your solution to the “infatuation?” And I didn’t know “infatuation” was illegal. And gun, scimitar, sabre, whatever.

Generally law abiding citizens in almost all of those pictures. If you are heading in the direction of making what they are doing illegal, you are wasting your time and mine. I don’t even understand what your goal is except to disarm all of those people in those pictures who don’t appear to be doing anything illegal, not a thing. I would add that the evidence room in Washington D.C. is full of weapons obtained during a period of extreme gun control, which later on was found to be unconstitutional. It’s not so much a matter of infatuation as it is a matter of constitutional right.

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